Vectors invisible at frame Zero

[Jkoseattle]

I have a bunch of vector layers. I have to go to frame 1 to see them though. I went to frame 0, checked the Visible box, applied, but I still don't see them until frame 1. Why is this?

[synthsin75]

Can you see the vector curves but without the shapes, or are the vectors missing too on frame zero?

[Jkoseattle]

Yeah if I have a layer selected I can see the curves, but not the shapes.

[Greenlaw]

I can think of a bunch of ways to make that happen but can't tell what's happening in your project without seeing it.

Can you strip down a copy of your project to one element that's invisible at 0 but visible elsewhere, and post it for examination?

[synthsin75]

Like Dennis says, it could be many things, like animated opacity on the style, a smart bone influence, etc..

[hayasidist]

my best guess -- do you have drawing tools enabled on all frames (i.e. not just frame 0)? if so did you draw the shapes on frame 1??

[Greenlaw]

Oh, yeah, I totally forgot about that one! Sounds likely a likely culprit to me too.

This is one of the reasons I keep 'Drawing Tools Only On Frame 0' disabled until I absolutely need it, and then I disable it again promptly when I'm done. Drawing on a later frame is useful when you really need to, like when you want to draw something relative to a character's pose, but if you're not careful, leaving this option on can really mess up a project. It's safer to keep this option disabled most of the time.

[synthsin75]

I never use Drawing Tools Only On Frame 0. It's easy enough to copy any errant shape keys to frame zero.

[Greenlaw]

True, but for me it's not worth the hassle when working in projects with hundreds of layers. Better to prevent the problem from happening at all.