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Rig seems good in frame 0, but goes wonky when trying to ani

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:44 pm
by Trollblood
So I created an alien character for a spot and I rigged him to the best of my ability and everything seemed fine in frame 0. When I started to make keyframes I noticed his arm seemed to ignore or just go crazy dealing with kinematics. Checked all the parenting and even rebuilt the bone rig for the arm. Still crazy, erratic movement.
I am theorizing that there may be a layer binding issue. Can a layer be bound to two different bones though?

Rechecked the layers as well as the bones and found no issues. The right arm just seems to want to raise and the forearm wants to fold in. the hand bone doesn't seem to be affected by this.
Now wondering if the angle restraints are causing the issue.
Thoughts?

Re: Rig seems good in frame 0, but goes wonky when trying to

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:19 pm
by dueyftw
If can share the file, please do.

I can help more if I see what your working on.

Dale

Re: Rig seems good in frame 0, but goes wonky when trying to

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:00 am
by Trollblood
Here's the file I'm working on. The problem is only evident when I move the arm after frame 1 in the timeline.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h9kzw3bdesame ... .moho?dl=0

Re: Rig seems good in frame 0, but goes wonky when trying to

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:41 pm
by jezjones29
To fix, take the angle constraint off the right shoulder.

Re: Rig seems good in frame 0, but goes wonky when trying to

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:04 am
by Keyframer
Cool rig! Hope you don't mind, I downloaded it to take a look at how it was built. I'm in the learning process.

Re: Rig seems good in frame 0, but goes wonky when trying to

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:06 pm
by dueyftw
Hi,

Sorry for such a late reply. I'm in NY and we had a storm that knocked out the power and internet.

I took a quick look. The rig is behaving just as you set it up. The kinematics are not working. Why I don't know right now. You can get around it by holding Alt. When I get time I will look into it some more.

I would change the forearm angle constraint to -90, 120.

I would bring the arms to the front of the character.

Dale

Re: Rig seems good in frame 0, but goes wonky when trying to

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:50 pm
by Trollblood
jezjones29 wrote:To fix, take the angle constraint off the right shoulder.
Tried that and the only difference was that the whole arm now moves around in erratic circular movements.

Re: Rig seems good in frame 0, but goes wonky when trying to

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:53 pm
by Trollblood
dueyftw wrote:Hi,

Sorry for such a late reply. I'm in NY and we had a storm that knocked out the power and internet.

I took a quick look. The rig is behaving just as you set it up. The kinematics are not working. Why I don't know right now. You can get around it by holding Alt. When I get time I will look into it some more.

I would change the forearm angle constraint to -90, 120.

I would bring the arms to the front of the character.

Dale


Doing the Holding Alt thing for now. Good idea, hadn't crossed my mind.
Tried lifting the angle constraints on the shoulder as jezjones29 suggested and the whole arm was then erratic. Ugh. :cry: