LIP SYNCING AND MOUTH MOVEMENTS for beginers
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LIP SYNCING AND MOUTH MOVEMENTS for beginers
I don't know if this has been posted before, but I never read anything about it so im just posting this.
When I first tried to draw my own mouths they were awful because i tried to draw a brand new one each time, but this key is to keep somewhat the same.
1. I draw the mouth at rest
2. I copy the rested mouth and name it something like open, and then I draw the mouth open.
3. I might duplicate the open mouth and make it narrower or wider.
4. I think I end up making mouths for: L, Open Wide(teeth showing), Open, Open Narrow, S/T/CH/SH, F/V, TH, M/N, O/OO/alot of other things, and I might have more but i can't think now, but this really works well for me, especially the open wide, narrow and normal, because I can use those for A's K's R's anything and it looks good.
just my advice: We say each word with the same mouth so your cartoons should too. =)
When I first tried to draw my own mouths they were awful because i tried to draw a brand new one each time, but this key is to keep somewhat the same.
1. I draw the mouth at rest
2. I copy the rested mouth and name it something like open, and then I draw the mouth open.
3. I might duplicate the open mouth and make it narrower or wider.
4. I think I end up making mouths for: L, Open Wide(teeth showing), Open, Open Narrow, S/T/CH/SH, F/V, TH, M/N, O/OO/alot of other things, and I might have more but i can't think now, but this really works well for me, especially the open wide, narrow and normal, because I can use those for A's K's R's anything and it looks good.
just my advice: We say each word with the same mouth so your cartoons should too. =)
- Datawraith
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- funksmaname
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You can be a pretty lazy animator and still get decent lip sync using Papagayo. Do what dreww says but use the 10 Papagayo mouth shapes.
After making the first mouth, I like to make a note layer in front of everything with a note that says "<-- mouth corner -->". I then copy this note layer, zoom way in on the mouth, and move the two note layers so there's an arrow at each corner of the mouth at rest, like this:
<-- mouth corner -->(Character's Mouth)<-- mouth corner -->
The corners of other mouth shapes may move from that exact location, but it can make things smoother if they don't stray too far.
Basically a wind-resistant version of Post-Its on your monitor.
After making the first mouth, I like to make a note layer in front of everything with a note that says "<-- mouth corner -->". I then copy this note layer, zoom way in on the mouth, and move the two note layers so there's an arrow at each corner of the mouth at rest, like this:
<-- mouth corner -->(Character's Mouth)<-- mouth corner -->
The corners of other mouth shapes may move from that exact location, but it can make things smoother if they don't stray too far.
Basically a wind-resistant version of Post-Its on your monitor.
- ErikAtMapache
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I say don't worry about it taking too long -- once you get started (after you make your basic mouth shapes in your model), lip syncing is actually pretty easy. I like to start by looking at the waveform (the image of the sound) and move forward listening to AAs, EEs, OOs, and MMs, as well as syncing up when the mouth closes. I'll do a quick review of the animation and then go back and add any missing detail if it's needed. If you're close, the viewer's mind will fill in anything that's missing.
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On my last job I had a crazy short deadline so I used a rig someone built to drive a mouth open more based on the amplitude of the dialogue sound file. Worked fine. I'd rather hand lipsync but it did the job.
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- Datawraith
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Actually it's just that I have a close deadline to meet and I can't spend too much time detailing things. I'm trying to learn to convey what I need to, in as little detailing time as possible.funksmaname wrote:datawraith - judging on your comment here, and your other post essentially asking how to make something good with as little effort as possible - it seems to me, animation is not for you.
Ordinarily I'd spend days on just one scene.
Re: LIP SYNCING AND MOUTH MOVEMENTS for beginers
This is wrong, and bad advice. Take the word 'The', for example. Most commonly said as 'der', proper pronunciation would emphasis the 'th' with a tongue between the teeth, and some people say 'ver'. So that's three different ways of saying one word, which all require different mouth shapes. What you are better off doing is listening to the soundtrack, and thinking about the character and how they would say things as well as the circumstances they are saying it in, then lip sync as needed.dreww wrote:just my advice: We say each word with the same mouth so your cartoons should too. =)
Re: Lipsynk with Papagayo Tutorial
Me preguntaron sobre cómo hacer el lipsink con dos personajes...rsandi wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFd9Q8PwyKo
Acá está el tutorial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mExwuhUCWaA