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Stroke exposure reversal weirdness

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I'm doing a lot of Stroke Exposure in my project. I've gotten fairly used to the workflow now, setting the end percentage to 0 and 100 in the appropriate places. With about every 3rd or 4th stroke I so animate, however, Moho decides to reverse the order of the stroke's points, so that what it thinks is the end of the line is what I drew as the start of the line. So my stroke exposure goes the wrong direction. I am drawing the strokes in the correct direction every time. I can't figure out how this happens, or how to fix it. The only solution I have thus far is to just redraw the stroke, very time-consuming for some of them. Anyone know why this is happening?
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I'm not seeing this. I can draw as many strokes as I like, select all, and adjusting the end or start is the same direction they were all drawn.
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Same here. I drew a dozen strokes using FH and stroke exposure is working from start to end properly here.

This was in 12.1. Haven't checked in 12.2 yet...for some reason, I can't start 12.2 at the moment.

Edit: Weird, I must have removed my 12.2 for some reason. Anyway, re-installed it and drew a dozen more lines. Stroke Exposure works fine there too.

How are you creating your strokes?
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Re: Stroke exposure reversal weirdness

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Interesting. I'm using the freehand tool, and just squirreling along with the mouse. Maybe next time it happens I should save off the project and have someone take a look at it.
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Re: Stroke exposure reversal weirdness

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that sort of thing has happened to me: if you draw a stroke (say L->R) then want to extend it and stick the stylus on the right hand end and draw L->R Moho saves the new conjoined stroke "backwards" (it will expose R->L)

It seems to be a general thing with freehand and merge / autoweld / curve simplify -- the point order you draw isn't necessarily the point order (or, indeed, connectivity) that makes it to the final "processed" stroke. (especially now in 12 with Bezier and 2-point fillable shapes) - there's some "unexpected" loops / twin paths between adjacent point behaviour that's attracted some discussions elsewhere...
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Re: Stroke exposure reversal weirdness

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Ah that makes sense, I have occasionally tacked onto an existing stroke partway through, so I bet you those are the backward ones.
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Re: Stroke exposure reversal weirdness

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yeah - whilst freehand has really improved in the last few releases it still, IMO, needs some more work... in the meantime, if you need to extend it's maybe easier in the long run to use the add / move point tools ..
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Re: Stroke exposure reversal weirdness

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you know you can expose/unexpose the line from both ends, using the alt key held? this might fix those times it goes upside down on you... :)
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Re: Stroke exposure reversal weirdness

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I've been typing in the percentage numbers instead Of dragging. I guess I can type 0 for 100 and vice versa.
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Re: Stroke exposure reversal weirdness

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A third option is to click in either number box, hold the middle mouse down and drag. This actually works in any number field. I often prefer this method.
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