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High quality render error

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:52 pm
by Bolvanchik
Hi.
I've tried to render some image montage in 2560x1440, but it stops after few frames and the render window just dissapears. In image sequence i can see that bottom part of few last images is empty.
Any ways to fix it?

Re: High quality render error

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:59 pm
by Víctor Paredes
Try unchecking 'Enable multi-threaded rendering' in the export window.
If that doesn't work, also try exporting as an image sequence.
You can also try this with the Moho exporter.

Re: High quality render error

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:04 pm
by Bolvanchik
"Render at half dimension" didn't help.
Unchecking "Enable multi-threaded rendering" didn't help, but more frames rendered before error.
Moho Exporter didn't help.

Re: High quality render error

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:36 pm
by synthsin75
Since you're doing an image sequence anyway, you might try rendering smaller arts of the animation separately.

Re: High quality render error

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:08 pm
by Bolvanchik
I usually make a lots of long test renders, so render 20 frames every 1 minute is not cool option at all :?

Re: High quality render error

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:54 pm
by slowtiger
The project size is not unusual, so what's the content? Do I guess correctly that you have a lot of imported bitmaps in that project?

Re: High quality render error

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:57 pm
by Bolvanchik
slowtiger wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:54 pm The project size is not unusual, so what's the content? Do I guess correctly that you have a lot of imported bitmaps in that project?
77kb moho file. Using image (2560*1440) sequences (hundreds of images) with masks and other effects.

Re: High quality render error

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:12 pm
by synthsin75
Bolvanchik wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:57 pm
slowtiger wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:54 pm The project size is not unusual, so what's the content? Do I guess correctly that you have a lot of imported bitmaps in that project?
77kb moho file. Using image (2560*1440) sequences (hundreds of images) with masks and other effects.
Ah, you're likely running out of RAM.

Re: High quality render error

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:39 am
by slowtiger
In that case (lots of images) try to split the project in terms of foreground, background, etc, so you can render out layers which are easily stacked and combined later. (Isn't that what Layer Compositions are for? I just do with switching them visible/invisible by hand, but have them organized in handy folders first.)

Re: High quality render error

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:14 pm
by Bolvanchik
synthsin75 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:12 pm Ah, you're likely running out of RAM.
I've closed many programs and render at half dimension worked with fll time animation. So any options to optimize it in settings?
slowtiger wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:39 am In that case (lots of images) try to split the project in terms of foreground, background, etc, so you can render out layers which are easily stacked and combined later. (Isn't that what Layer Compositions are for? I just do with switching them visible/invisible by hand, but have them organized in handy folders first.)
I need to see everything in test renders. It's not cartoon, it's literally frame by frame video editing and mistakes can be very tiny, so no way to notice them without background.

Re: High quality render error

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:46 am
by alanthebox
Bolvanchik wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:14 pm I need to see everything in test renders. It's not cartoon, it's literally frame by frame video editing and mistakes can be very tiny, so no way to notice them without background.
yikes! is there a reason you need to do this moho? i can't really imagine moho is the best tool for image sequence video editing. if you're in need of some video editing software and are looking for something free, this is a pretty good open source video editor: https://kdenlive.org/en/

Re: High quality render error

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:27 am
by slowtiger
I understand your choice of workflow. However, I only once ran into trouble with Moho and rendering, and that was when I had about 20 Quicktime movies of about 2000x2000px each in a file. After that I made it a habit to check all assets for overblown size, and had no trouble since. In scenes with no camera moves at all my elements are exactly the size they appear. In 3d scenes I enlarge them by 1,25, enough to compensate perspective distortions. Only for scenes with a zoom in I create really large bitmaps - but still only for the parts which will be visible in the tightest close up.

Re: High quality render error

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:25 pm
by Bolvanchik
alanthebox wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:46 am yikes! is there a reason you need to do this moho? i can't really imagine moho is the best tool for image sequence video editing. if you're in need of some video editing software and are looking for something free, this is a pretty good open source video editor: https://kdenlive.org/en/
Lol, i know how to edit video, i'm using Sony Vegas for it. But I'm making much of masking and shaping, that's why i need moho.
slowtiger wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:27 am I understand your choice of workflow. However, I only once ran into trouble with Moho and rendering, and that was when I had about 20 Quicktime movies of about 2000x2000px each in a file. After that I made it a habit to check all assets for overblown size, and had no trouble since. In scenes with no camera moves at all my elements are exactly the size they appear. In 3d scenes I enlarge them by 1,25, enough to compensate perspective distortions. Only for scenes with a zoom in I create really large bitmaps - but still only for the parts which will be visible in the tightest close up.
I need such big size to move camera freely with zooming then in Sony. I can't use low resolution.