The 14th version is a brand new one, with some areas that need improvement.
For example, adding masks to a model can become very sluggish. If the model contains colored nodes, it will become more sluggish.
I don't know if other users have encountered this issue I hope only I am troubled by it.
Re: Moho14 version mask severely stuck
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:27 pm
by Daxel
I've been working with Moho 14 a lot, and performance have been great here, using all kinds of nasty complex nested masks so I guess something specific is happening there. Let's try to pinpoint what the issue is so you can report it in a way Moho devs have an easy time fixing it.
Does this happen every time or just in that specific moho file?
What do you mean by adding masks? any type of mask? Is that a vector, bitmap or hybrid model?
Where do you notice the slugginess?
What do you mean by colored nodes? Colored vector points or colored keyframes? I think colored vector points are not a built-in feature.
If I remember correctly you are on windows, right?
Can you share a file that we can take a look at?
Re: Moho14 version mask severely stuck
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:58 pm
by Greenlaw
Daxel wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:27 pm
What do you mean by colored nodes? Colored vector points or colored keyframes? I think colored vector points are not a built-in feature.
Color vector points was my assumption. I don't normally use this feature but curious to see how it affects the new masking. If I have time today to try it, will post what I learn.
Re: Moho14 version mask severely stuck
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:48 am
by sang820
Daxel wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:27 pm
I've been working with Moho 14 a lot, and performance have been great here, using all kinds of nasty complex nested masks so I guess something specific is happening there. Let's try to pinpoint what the issue is so you can report it in a way Moho devs have an easy time fixing it.
Does this happen every time or just in that specific moho file?
What do you mean by adding masks? any type of mask? Is that a vector, bitmap or hybrid model?
Where do you notice the slugginess?
What do you mean by colored nodes? Colored vector points or colored keyframes? I think colored vector points are not a built-in feature.
If I remember correctly you are on windows, right?
Can you share a file that we can take a look at?
After the screen turns white, moho14 freezes and then the program crashes
I can currently only make shots in 13.55 that include masks.
I use moho14 basic functions. No external plugins.
Full vector model, no reference to pixel images or patterns.
This kind of lag and crash only occurs in complex moho files. (Especially models with lots of colored nodes)
I use win10 system, sorry I can't share the project files, this is a commercial project，But I created another engineering file with a similar problem，I can't open it with 13.55, as opening this file on 14 will crash. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vMXC2g ... share_link
Thank you for your attention, let’s make version 14 better together
Daxel wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:27 pm
What do you mean by colored nodes? Colored vector points or colored keyframes? I think colored vector points are not a built-in feature.
Color vector points was my assumption. I don't normally use this feature but curious to see how it affects the new masking. If I have time today to try it, will post what I learn.
Yes, you guessed it right. In this model I use colored nodes a lot. The art effect is very good, but 133.55 will be a bit laggy. And 14 is a complete meltdown. Every time.
Re: Moho14 version mask severely stuck（win10）
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:31 am
by SimplSam
This issue has now been reported.
p.s. Really nice artwork (old man)
Re: Moho14 version mask severely stuck（win10）
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:19 am
by Daxel
Ah, color points! Sorry I forgot they exist. I should use them more, they are pretty cool. And your drawing too, I like that style.
Thank you for the information, I understand now and I can confirm it slows down very much here too.
Disabling the display of shape effects makes the performance ok again. The effect on the performance seems to be related to the amount of shapes and color points (tested it with less shapes and only one color point and the performance was good, so it seems to be an accumulative effect on performance.
Hope it can be improved a lot, but I wonder how much since color points look like a performance heavy feature anyways but I hope it can be improved.
Re: Moho14 version mask severely stuck（win10）
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:53 am
by sang820
SimplSam wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:31 am
This issue has now been reported.
p.s. Really nice artwork (old man)
Thank you. I will work hard to create more beautiful moho animations and help more animators understand moho.
Re: Moho14 version mask severely stuck（win10）
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:56 am
by sang820
Daxel wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:19 am
Ah, color points! Sorry I forgot they exist. I should use them more, they are pretty cool. And your drawing too, I like that style.
Thank you for the information, I understand now and I can confirm it slows down very much here too.
Disabling the display of shape effects makes the performance ok again. The effect on the performance seems to be related to the amount of shapes and color points (tested it with less shapes and only one color point and the performance was good, so it seems to be an accumulative effect on performance.
Hope it can be improved a lot, but I wonder how much since color points look like a performance heavy feature anyways but I hope it can be improved.
Thank you, I also really like the color node function. It would be even better if the weight of color attenuation could be controlled. Ah, I'm too greedy, but that would really be great
Re: Moho14 version mask severely stuck（win10）
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:03 am
by sang820
Version 14.1 has fixed the bug of 'color nodes+masks=stuttering or even program crashes', which is really great.
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The files I created in version 14 are still a bit stuck, but they are already very good. (I'm not sure if it's a version issue or a problem with sharp or rounded graphics)
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总之，真是太好了=）
I hope only I am troubled by it.
Thank you for your attention, let’s make version 14 better together
